What Patrick Stewart Taught Us About True Friendship, The Arts and Love.

Why Patrick Stewart Matters

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Sir Patrick Stewart gave us one of Cinema's greatest mentors in Professor X, but his friendship with Sir Ian McKellen might be the greatest lesson that he's ever taught anybody about being a good man. Welcome to the Phantom Portals, guys. I'm here with Brash. How you going, Brash?

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Sad day.

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It is a sad day. As we are talking about celebrating the life and career of Sir Patrick Stewart, he obviously has played a big part in lots of people's nostalgia childhood fandoms. So we thought we'd just have a bit of an open chat about how he has impacted us and the things that he's been in that we love today. So if you are also a Patrick Stewart lover, then join us for the ride. And also go and watch one of his amazing movies. Because yeah, he's left a big catalogue, but also a lot of gifts in terms of the art that he's shared for us to indulge

A Friendship With Ian McKellen

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in. So I think that's the first thing that I kind of want to talk about with regards to Patrick Stewart brash is the ongoing friendship that he's had with Sir Ian McKellen. Because I think the first time I saw Patrick Stewart was in a Star Trek movie when I used to watch them late at night with my dad. And he was like a he was a a source for me of comfort in the chaos that was the Borg taking over Sachiv Enterprise. And that coupled with the safety that I felt with Gandalf in terms of the Fellowship of the Ring when the Hobbits were with Gandalf. It was just like two great men that were like nurturing and made me as a viewer feel safe in the company of them. So I think I've always had sort of warm feelings about both of those people. And the fact that they're actually real life friends and amazing friends is great. It was such a privilege to watch.

SPEAKER_00 2:02

No, yeah. Like they have like their their friendship is like breaks all boundaries of any other sort of friendships I've ever known or seen. Yep. Even like, say for us, like we always tell each other we love each other and give each other the h hug and shit when we see each other. But like theirs is almost like on like a pure, like full-on spiritual fucking next level type friendship.

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Like they found a kindred spirit in each other.

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Yeah, and like that, they and like with no no sort of uh fear of like contemptment from any other person or people around them. It's like they see each other and then everyone, everything else is just white noise.

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It's just really great moment. Yeah, especially in terms of the generation that they grew up in and how most men would express friendship or a lack thereof in terms of emotional expression or vulnerability. Exactly, like a hearty handshake, a pat on the back, and she'll be right mate, or a toughen up. But these two obviously have shared lots of great stories together that very heavily involved in the arts. Like they had known each other beforehand, but they very much got close on the set of X-Men when they were playing Great Friendslash Rivals, the complicated relationship of Charles Xavier and Eric Lynch's Magneto. But apparently they had a joining trailers during that movie, and in their downtime, they would sit and drink tea and just talk about theatre and share life stories, and the connection was just so natural that their friendship developed through that. And I think it's great for us to see people of that generation who do break the mold because it kind of laid the footsteps for friendships in our generation and generations to come, like male and male friendships as well. No matter what the situation is with like sexuality or anything to do with that, I think it was just a very healthy expression between the two of them. They had some shared passions that they enjoyed. And you could tell because every time that they greeted each other, like I recently watched an interview again with both of them and also Hugh Jackman on uh the Graham Norton show. And every time they see each other, they just greet each other with such affection. But also you can just tell by the way that they look at each other. Mouth kiss. Yeah, with a mouth kiss as well. But they they also just love each other's company, and it's so warm and it's so inviting and it's so admirable. And it's something that I feel like male friendships should be like and aspire to be like as well.

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So yeah, I think we're all we're all ever everyone everyone should take a note out of his or their uh book about just uh honestly, just in how they should deal with people.

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Yeah.

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And deal with people and friendships.

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Yeah, and I think it's like scrap the labels, do what feels right in your heart, and then also you know, admire and love the person that's in front of you for the person that they are as a friend or otherwise. So it's very, very good lessons that those two were able to show us through a very long career on TV, which I'm thankful to be able to have viewed. But yeah, I think people should be ex comfortable with expressing that form of love, that vulnerability, and that also appreciation for each other's mates. And it's tricky sometimes, but it's also very rewarding when you can do it with the right people as

The Roles That Shaped Us

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well. But let's start to jump into some of the roles that made him great. So, yeah, the first time I saw Patrick Stewart was obviously in Star Trek, and that is a role that is very close to a lot of people's hearts. He played Jean-Luc Picard. If you want to know a lot about Star Trek, then you should check out uh Frank on Geeks Freaks because he is a trekkie through and through. And as I said before, he's always just been this vessel of safety, but also this Shakespearean presence and a leader on the Enterprise. Uh, what were your first interactions with Sir Patrick Stewart, Brash?

SPEAKER_00 5:45

Also Star Trek, because as much as I'm a massive Star Wars fan, um I'm also also a trekky. Yep. I know it that uh back in the day that was really a hard thing to be, to be both a Star Wars fan and a trekky fan, because they hate each other.

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Yeah, there was some animosities.

SPEAKER_00 6:03

Who who had the better space show? Um no, yeah, start Star Trek next generation because I was obviously well, we were both a bit too young to sort of see the original Star Trek or be around for the original Star Trek when that was over, and sort of had to sort of catch the next generation. So that was my first iteration of Star Trek, and then had to go back and watch the original. Um, but really one of my favorite oh he's it's hard to it's hard to pick sort of ones like your favourite, but uh one of the other earliest ones that uh I remember Sir Patrick Stewart being in is Robin Hood Man and Tights.

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Oh yes, playing King Richard. King Richard. I think that's also super funny because one of the first times that I actually saw him was in Excalibur, and he actually played a king in that as well. He was actually one of the first nobles to recognise Arthur as the king. Like he says he was one of the people that said, I actually saw this boy pull the sword from from that stone. So I yeah, it's crazy that he goes on to play kings in various different iterations as well.

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But like he but these like us, it's like same with um Ian McCallum and a lot of those, a lot of those, like Christopher Lee and all like that, like all those sort of that all the sort of older generation, uh especially like the guys that were come from theatre, and like like uh they've been in they've been in so many fantasy movies involving it either being kings or voices of dragons or yeah, just like well Patrick Stewart did that too, didn't he?

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He was a Dragon Heart. Yeah, Dragon Heart Dragon Heart 3.

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Yeah, I don't know, Heartfire or something. Yep. Um yeah, uh like they've all they've all done those kind of movies, like and all done because their range is just so they have so much range.

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Yeah, and they're evil. They're real in there.

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I I hate to say it, and uh, I heard Matthew Lewis was saying the same thing that now they're they're no longer hiring actors who can act. Like they're just hiring uh I think he's like he's okay, so I'm gonna die on this hill. Sorry, he's he's they're not they're not hiring people who can pretty much run do a whole scene with just their mouth.

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Yeah.

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Whereas like you see like sort of the old actors, especially theatre actors, where a lot of it is a lot of pronunciation, but they have to be able to pronounce it and choice their intentions out to people who can't really see that well from back in the back of the stages. And that's why I think anyone with theatre background would do it will is do it like will do so much better in movies and TV shows. But going back to Patrick Stewart, like again, like he he can do certainly range. Like he played a king and he said, Oh, a noble inning scarbon, as you said, but then he also played King Richard in Robin Hood Band Tights, which is different common that yeah, I was the difference in those movies is one was more serious, and one was a comedy, yeah. And like, and and that's uh another thing I love about Patrick Stewart as well, is throughout the years, he's not afraid to do silly shows, and like he's been in like all family guys and Simpsons, and yeah, like he's been uh what was it? Uh in one of his speeches he did um like in the war uh on a just for laughs. He was on just for laughs, and he went up there and he's basically I think I put it on my Instagram and we're here to talk about something very important, and someone knows. And he does all that kind of stuff, and it's just so like he it like the range that this man has, and just the like no matter what he does, and the same same with Sullivan in McAllen as well, but when no matter and Crispy Lee, like all those guys, whatever they do, they put a hundred percent into it. Yeah, and I think they've all said it before as well. They're like, We're not here, we're not here for the like the paycheck, that's obviously good.

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Yeah, and the accolades.

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They're here to but put on the best performance that they can, and they'll put a hundred percent, 110% into everything they do, no matter what it is, because like to them, like their pride and their pride as actors is more important than any other the bullshit.

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Yeah.

Theatre Craft And True Range

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I think it also I don't want to say came naturally because it's obviously a craft that he worked on so well. But I saw an interview where he was talking about the first time that he went on stage, and Sir Patrick Stewart walked out onto this this stage that he eventually ended up making his home, and he said that he was a quite a nervous and anxious kid and not knowing who he was. And then when he went out onto the stage, he felt at home for the first time and he felt safe because nobody could judge him for who he was actually. They were judging his performance, and the barrier kept him safe, and through that, he developed the confidence to then also be himself and feel safe in himself. And I think that kind of wisdom carried through to his characters, like we were talking before about Jean-Luc Picard, the captain of the Enterprise, and he just has so many different qualities as a leader that you can sort of take into your real life. Like he he challenges his crewmates, which is what a leader should do, but he also supports their growth, which is a very like tough line to navigate, because sometimes when you challenge people or challenge a crew, it's not really accepted in the manner that it is intended. But he also supports their growth, which is great through the series as well. And he's always intelligent and empathetic, empathetic, and he has all that integrity as well. Because one of the scariest things that I saw in the movie that I referenced before about Star Trek was when he was actually taken over by the Borg. You knew that they were in trouble because their leader, the one with the the purest heart and the greatest of intentions, has succumb or been taken over by by the Borg, and then the rest of the crew had to sort of rescue him. But one of the best things that he he did, and I've got a quote here that he he said on an episode called Peak Performance back in Star Trek The Next Generation, season two, episode 21, if you want to watch it. He says,

Picard As A Model Leader

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It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. He says, That's not a weakness, that's just life. And in this episode, he was actually talking to Data or Data, who is really beating himself up over the fact that he like it damages his confidence that he lost at something. And it sort of teaches him that, you know, failure isn't always the result of poor decisions in this aspect, but we do learn to accept setbacks without loss, and and we still have to have confidence in ourselves. Which, you know, the writers of that show obviously had a line in that as well. But it was the the delivery that he sort of gave and the character that he portrayed on screen that allows that to be believable and translate to the audience. And I feel like he has so many performances like that where you can just take so much from the things that he says. Like another one that he said was the first duty of every Starfleet officer is to tell the truth. Well, that's something common that he says always all the time. And I think he said it to Wesley Crusher. And it that's that integrity that we're all sort of working towards as people where we're mostly talking about what matters most is telling the truth. And sometimes that comes at a personal cost, as it does in the episode. But I actually think that the lessons that he teaches us are so profound and it's coming from such a safe and warm place that you can't help but to trust it. And I feel like that's the best thing that Captain Bicard taught us through his his leadership as well. But yeah, he's got so many roles that are exactly like that as well.

SPEAKER_00 13:07

Yeah, like that man has like they they could write an entire sort of encyclopedia-sized massive book just on like quoted things this man has said, like both in shows, which I I guess writers would help come up with those quotes, but he his his way of delivering those lines is what like gives him their power. But even just in his average life, just the his quotes and his philosophies is something that probably should be put in a book and study.

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Yeah. Well, I think he even said at one point, I'll always and forever be an actor. That's a famous thing that he said as well. And you know, he he lived to that, literally. And then you can just tell how much passion he has for the for the craft in that that aspect there. But I think we can't have a Patrick Stewart

Quotes That Still Hit Hard

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episode without talking about probably one of his most famous roles, and that is the role of Charles Xavier, the leader of the X-Men, the father figure of so many lost boys and girls and mutants. Charles Xavier, when he was cast, I always think of it like this. The the casting director for that movie literally had one option. There was no other person in the early 2000s that a casting director would look at and say, Who should we pick as Sir Charles or Sir for Charles Xavier? There is no other option than Sir Patrick Stewart because they would have been it's it's the same thing that sort of happened when they didn't cast Adam Driver as Snape. It was just like he was right there. Like that's what would that's exactly what would have happened if they overlooked Patrick Stewart for Charles Xavier because he was sitting for the role.

SPEAKER_00 14:35

Taking back, like who else was there?

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Yeah, who like who else? I mean, you could go Bruce Willis, but fucking uh he'd be really jacked.

SPEAKER_00 14:43

Just Jason Statham.

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Yeah, yeah, no. But the thing with Charles Xavier is we get so many versions of Charles Xavier as well. Like in 2001 or 2000 when the X-Men came out, he was very much that sort of stoic leader, that stalwood person. And then you see him in Logan years and years later, and he's a fractured version of that completely. But then as that movie Logan starts to play on, you see that he starts to come back and he starts to use his powers again for the good of humanity, where he starts to calm the horses and he sees Laura and he starts to connect with a young mutant again. It's like his purpose is restored, and you see that old version of Charles Xavier come back instead of the broken one that we see. But it's just so Patrick Stewart's able to pull it off so well.

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It's it's a sad day for the movie industry.

SPEAKER_01 15:29

Yeah, yeah. Well, he was always good at seeing seeing the good in people, especially in that role as Professor X, because he he says, even mankind who hate mutants, he talks about them, and obviously his whole goal as Charles Xavier is to preserve the peace between mutants and humankind. But he says mankind isn't isn't evil, they're just uninformed, and we have to help them become more informed. And that's wise for every aspect of any kind of difference or any kind of social group that's differing between each other. The more information that you have, the better the chances that you'll you'll get along. It's like when you take a look below the surface of the iceberg and you see all the reasons or the motivation behind the behavior, you start to sympathize and empathize with that, and as a result, you begin to get along, or not even just get along, but form an understanding and coexist.

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So he's like that's the old saying of like just people being scared of the unknown.

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Exactly right. Yeah.

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And if you uncover the secrets to an unknown, it's less scary.

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100%, 100%. And I think I'm probably gonna go back and do a marathon of the the X-Men movies, just not just for Sir Patrick Stewart, but he'll definitely be a big part of it. But I think the even in X-Men Days of Future Past, which came out in 2014, he he talks about the the the importance of perseverance,

Professor X And Mentorship

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because there's a line that he says and he goes, you know, sometimes just because people stumble and they lose their way, it doesn't mean that they're lost forever. And I like that because it's uh it's a takeoff of a Tolkien quote that I like, and it's not all those that wander as lost, but it also applies so much to the character that he's speaking to in that moment, and that is Logan, you know, like he is definitely a flawed man, and Charles Xavier sees the best in Logan, takes him in, gives him a family, and then as a result of that, nourishes the withered plant, so to speak, and then sees it grow into this amazing protective figure that is Logan aka Wolverine. So I I think that's an extraordinary moment of mentorship, and he's obviously played a lot of mentors through his time as well. But yeah, what do you reckon?

SPEAKER_00 17:28

Well, on your on your watching all the X-Men's, I think I'm gonna go back and watch all the next generation again.

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Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:33

Because like I I for me, like, and especially when they announced the Picard show, I was so excited for that, and it was so good, and I loved every fucking second. Next generation is probably my favorite or was my favorite Star Trek series. It still in a way is, especially in nostalgia-wise, but I actually have sort of like my newest, newest sort of favorite new favourite Star Trek show is Is it Strange New Worlds? Strange New Worlds, yeah. That's the show. Because like I I yeah, Anson. Anson is I love Anson. I love it and everything he's done. He he he reminds me a little bit actually of Patrick Stewart in the way he also acts and the way he conducts himself on the bridge of the st of the uh Enterprise.

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Yeah, as Captain Pai. Yeah, that's that's very true, actually, from what I've seen of Strange New Worlds, you can see him also challenging but nurturing his his crew members as well. He's also very virtuous in terms of his morality, so he won't do the wrong thing to get the result. He will do the right thing even if it takes personal cost.

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Which yeah, which he does in the show several times, actually. But yeah, um, yeah, like I think I think I like Strange New Worlds more so because it's a bit more updated and like a bit more flashier, I guess you could say. But like next generation is always like I'll always go back to next generation purely because of Patrick Stewart. And like, oh, and like John from Frank's as well, like number two, like he's like he was my favorite probably character, like as much as I did love John Luke Picard, he wasn't always like my fa he wasn't my favorite character.

SPEAKER_01 19:08

Yeah, yeah. Uh yeah, I think he was mine a hundred percent. And it's not just because we're doing a Sir Patrick Stewart episode, but I think that he just embodied that that wisdom, but not to the point that he was uh what's the word I'm looking for? A sense of superiority. Like I don't feel like he ever had that that some leaders get when they're in the leadership position. He was very humble about his leadership. And he also did that in X-Men as well as Charles Xavier, because if you remember, if we want to remember, X-Men the Last Stand. Xavier in that movie obviously wasn't perfect because he put these psychic barriers in Gene Gray's mind to contain her obviously immense powers. And then Logan later on questions him on that and says, Was that the right decision to make? And then Xavier defends his actions and choosing between two terrible outcomes. But you know, what can you do in that sort of situation? But he was always grounded in that protection against or or for Gene, and ultimately you know that his decision came from a space of like love, but yeah, then you also see the well let's be fair.

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Logan actually didn't know what he was talking about, and the reason why I put all is because Gene was infected by a parasite known as Phoenix Force, and he was trying to contain that parasite from doing what it did when it got unlocked, which was destroy a lot of things and kill a lot of people.

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Yeah.

Can Role Models Be Wrong

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So well that's that's the thing I wanted to kind of bring up here is that can can someone really be a great role model if they they make those serious kind of mistakes like that? And obviously it wasn't a mistake because he needed to do it to deserve the greater good, but it you know it can be viewed as a mistake by others. But what do you think in terms of role models and making mistakes?

SPEAKER_00 20:42

Well, I think the biggest thing about being like being a role model, not I'm not sure if I'm anyone's role model, but the thing I look at it like in a role model is like they have to be the ones that make the hard choices and then stand by those choices. If he had done it and would have been like, oh yeah, maybe it wasn't a very good idea. I'd like to do it for personal reasons like personal gain or but what's like if he if he was to backtrack him and say, Oh yeah, maybe it wasn't a good idea, but no, he stuck with his guns and said, No, in the moment, it was the best choice I had.

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Yeah.

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But then when he was too dangerous, you don't kill a lot of people, I had to do something.

SPEAKER_01 21:18

Yeah. When he was questioned about it later, I I like that he he didn't really try to justify his choice. He said exactly what you just said there. He made the best decision he could with the information that he had at the time, and he knows that he made a mistake, and then he will do everything that he can to try and move forward with that in the future with the new information that he has. And I I personally think that's what makes a good role model is is not being a perfect person. It's an imperfect person trying to be the best version of themselves. That's what a role model is. And taking accountability, exactly right, and making sure that your actions are what present themselves as as the right thing to do. And I think that there's I actually have a friend that said this to me recently. Shout out to Lollivi, great dude. Full of good advice. He said anything that is worth people taking from you in terms of wisdom can be perceived from your actions or how you portray yourself. And any way, like if you want people to praise you for a certain aspect, it's going to be because you act in that way. It's not because you tell them that you're good at XYZ. So I think that's a good thing.

SPEAKER_00 22:22

It's about voicing voicing the actions and then following through with them.

SPEAKER_01 22:25

Yeah, exactly. Right. So you can tell people that you have integrity, but it is better to act with integrity because that's more powerful and show them. And that's exactly right. And all of the characters that that Patrick Stewart plays, Xavier, all of the kings that he's he's played as well, and John Luc Picard all show that through that action as well. So I think he's left a indelible mark on cinema through the roles that he's played, but also his versatility, his friendship in real life, and just the man that he was is just a testament.

The Quiet Kindness Behind Fame

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And well, we might Mary Mary Mary Mariana Citrus, who played Donna Troy on Star Trek. Well, she because she came out and said after like because she was interviewed after the death of Patrick Stewart, and she like got very emotional because just before COVID, her husband passed away. Yeah. And then COVID hit, which means everyone had to lock up and be alone. So she was alone purely just after her husband died. And she's like, not every day, but like like every every week or a couple of times every week, she get a phone call from Patrick Stuart just to catch up, see how she's doing that. And then eventually when it sort of like sort of getting a bit more relaxed, like he invited her out to his place where they could socially distance in their backyard, but sort of be together so she wasn't alone. And she's like, he is the only person who did that. Yeah. And that and she's like, she's like, and she's like, and that's the character of the man.

SPEAKER_01 23:52

Yeah. And I think that speaks volumes, absolutely, because nobody was watching in that sense, in terms of Hollywood or any sort of prestigious entity. He was doing that because he knew that his friend needed some help in that in

Avengers Doomsday And A Final Bow

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that moment. But I think we might close out by talking about his documented final goodbye, we will say, as Professor X in Avengers Doomsday. We've seen him in the trailer. Best thing that I have seen from this is that he's obviously reunited with Magneto, and it seems like their relationship is amicable. We see the chessboard again in the the trailers that we've seen, and there's some voiceover as well by Ian McKellen and also Sir Patrick Stewart through this. And one of the quotes from the tri trailer that I like that I think carries a little bit of weight is who will you be when you close your eyes? And that speaks again of that legacy in not simply what we achieve, but also as poignant because now that Patrick Stewart's obviously passed, it sort of puts that question in my mind of like what we leave behind. And I I don't know how they're gonna handle it with Avengers Doomsday, but I'll tell you what, Brash, if they don't have a in-loving memory of Sir Patrick Stewart at the end of this film Oh they have to. I'll give it a 1.35 out of 10.

SPEAKER_00 25:02

They have to, they have to. Or even it's it's his literally his last role.

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Yeah.

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So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:13

And a beloved role too. But I think that the biggest thing is, you know, when like Stan Lee, for example, passed and the Marvel banner was all Stan Lee, like at the start, the fanfare. And then when Chad Chad Bozeman passed, they did the same thing. And I'm hoping that in Avengers Doomsday we get one of those for Sir Charles uh Sir Patrick Stewart as well as Charles Objega.

SPEAKER_00 25:34

I think that's also gonna be hard to do. I don't I I I don't know. I I I I know I know like like it it's easy to do, and they probably should do it, but the thing is for for Stanley, he was the creator obviously. So he's so they did a whole banner of him for Joe Bozeman. It was in Panthers 2, I believe.

SPEAKER_01 25:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:54

Where they did the banner because it's all about Panther. This is Doomsday, which has got like a myriad of characters.

SPEAKER_01 26:00

I see what you're saying.

SPEAKER_00 26:01

And they usually have to flick through all the characters that in that are in the movie in the thing. So it can't just be all of just Patrick Stewart's Xavier. But what they should do at the very minimum is have maybe an extended, like either start out and just quickly run through a bunch of the characters and then it just be a bunch, like at the end, just be a bunch of Patrick Stewart's.

SPEAKER_01 26:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:25

So at the very start, what they did run through a few characters and then punch through a bunch of Patrick Stewart's.

SPEAKER_01 26:30

Yeah. Or what they did in Wolverine and Deadpool when they played all of the 2000 Fox universe's behind the scenes trailers through through the credits, that would be okay too. I would I would like that. But just some sort of thing.

SPEAKER_00 26:44

And I I do like I do also agree, because the thing is, this is the first time Patrick Stewart's been in or sorry, the second time Patrick Stewart's been in a Marvel movie.

SPEAKER_01 26:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:55

And his technically his character is a Fox character who then got sort of shunted into the Marvel, like into the DC uh the Disney Marvel.

SPEAKER_01 27:04

Well, I I think I see what you're getting at. Here is you don't think he's going to have a lot of screen time, or at least we we may see him die on the screen.

SPEAKER_00 27:11

It's just it's just that um like with Chesapeake Bo Bozeman and Stan Lee, obviously they're all directly involved. Jack Boseman was in a Marvel like he was Power D Marvel Moon. Whereas Patrick Stewart's thing tenure with Marvel or at least the MCU is just the Doctor Strange movie and and now Doomsday.

SPEAKER_01 27:31

Yeah. I still think it's enough, personally. I think do it.

SPEAKER_00 27:35

Oh no, no, just just because he's Patrick Stewart is enough.

SPEAKER_01 27:39

That's exactly right.

SPEAKER_00 27:40

But uh I as but like I'm just trying to be I definitely do the devil's devil's advocating in impartial on this as much as I I would love if the whole movie was just Patrick Stewart for the whole movie, and then they made that Tuesday, and then they're like, and then like five minutes just quickly do just a run through of what the movie was actually meant to be, but the whole thing was just Patrick Stewart. I'd love that.

SPEAKER_01 27:58

That'd be great. That'd be awesome narration over the top. The director's commentary is Patrick Stewart commentary, that'd be great.

SPEAKER_00 28:04

That is oh that that would need to happen. That would be that would have been so good. Yeah, but if they just got like Ian McCallan and Patrick Stewart to just watch the movie and just do a fucking them two just doing play like a reaction content on YouTube, uh just like it's just a commentary, just like just a reaction commentary. And they'll be like, Oh, look out, like go like Patrick's go to Ian, oh look, here comes our part, our part's coming up, and they're like the way through they start talking about the tea that they're drinking.

SPEAKER_01 28:30

Yeah, we get a little info on the phone.

SPEAKER_00 28:32

Oh, just that would be so amazing. That would be so amazing, just them two just kicking back, talking shit and watching the movie and doing commentary on it.

SPEAKER_01 28:40

That's like exactly it.

SPEAKER_00 28:42

And like and they and they could be like, Oh, movies these days compared to like movies that were then, like they're like so much, like so much bigger and more extravagant and blah, and they can chit chat about their experiences and to be to be very cool, very cynical about this to to close us out.

SPEAKER_01 28:56

I I think at least this, if not already, would boost the attendance of people in the box office to see Avengers Doomsday, just to see him on the screen for that last time because I mean we're gonna cry.

SPEAKER_00 29:09

We're gonna work it anyway. Yeah, we're going anyway, but like now still. Oh, 100%.

SPEAKER_01 29:15

I'll most likely cry.

SPEAKER_00 29:16

Hey, I just watched I just watched Cody knack me today and I was crying. So Yep.

SPEAKER_01 29:23

Hey, look, we are walking the path our forefathers did before us. We have a vulnerable friendship. It's okay to cry, guys. All right. So

Farewell And Your Favourite Role

SPEAKER_01 29:30

with that, we will close out our tribute episode on Sir Patrick Stewart. Uh, thank you for everything that you've left us. And also in the comments, guys, if you want to join the discussion, tell us what your favorite Patrick Stewart role is. Let us know, because he definitely has a lot of them and a varied assortment as well. Someone for someone for every taste, you could say. But we we thank you for everything in loving memory of. And this is Aaron signing out. So keep learning, keep growing, keep loving fandoms, and go watch a Patrick Stewart movie, guys. Live long and prosper.