May 21, 2025

Ready or Not (2019) – Class Satire, Samara Weaving Shines & Wedding Dress Symbolism

Episode Summary:
Aaron and Brash unmask the twisted charm of Ready or Not , the 2019 horror-comedy that turns wedding bells into warning sirens. In this episode of The Fandom Portals Podcast , the hosts deep dive into the film's class satire , deadly game trope , and the subversive genius behind Grace's blood-soaked transformation . They also break down iconic scenes, behind-the-scenes secrets, and the deeper message hiding beneath the Le Domas estate. From exploding elites to moral betrayals, this episode reveals why Grace might be horror’s most relatable final girl—and how trying to fit in can cost you everything.

Topics:

Plot breakdown and sequel speculation for Ready or Not: Here I Come
Samara Weaving’s performance and character analysis of Grace
Behind-the-scenes: why the film was shot in chronological order
Symbolism of the wedding dress and smoking motif
The “Eat the Rich” and “Deadly Game” horror tropes
Fan reactions from Reddit and Threads
Ensemble cast satire: what each Le Domas member represents
Alternate ending revelations and why they changed it
Trivia showdown in Fandom Fact Face-Off

Key Takeaways:

Ready or Not is more than gore and games—it's a brutal takedown of elitism, class violence, and toxic family traditions.
Grace’s white wedding dress visually tracks her transformation—from hopeful outsider to blood-drenched survivor.
The film’s satirical brilliance lies in how it exaggerates and mocks generational wealth and entitlement.
The original ending had Grace die—but the filmmakers changed it to give audiences a cathartic win over the 1%.
Each Le Domas family member personifies a distinct vice or elite stereotype, making the film a smart character study.
Practical effects, limited sets, and chronological shooting made this low-budget film a visual and emotional standout.

Quotes:

“You don’t just survive this family—you survive what they represent.”
“Sometimes trying to fit in costs you everything—especially when the table was never meant for you.”
“The wedding dress became its own character—it ripped, burned, and bled with her.”
“Every character in this film is a warning sign about the cost of complicity.”

Apple Podcast Tags:
Ready or Not, Samara Weaving, Horror Comedy, Final Girl, Class Satire, Eat the Rich, Wedding Horror, Horror Tropes, Survival Horror, Geek Freaks Network, Fandom Portals Podcast, Horror Analysis, Thriller Movies, Dark Humor, Social Commentary

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00:00 - Wedding Night Nightmare Begins

14:59 - Meet the Lethal Le Domas Family

30:40 - Hide and Seek Turns Deadly

45:21 - Grace Fights to Survive

01:01:02 - The Hunt Intensifies

01:16:32 - Dawn Brings Bloody Justice

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Ready or Not is the film that we looked at and deep dove into for this episode of the Phantom Portals podcast.

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It was made in 2019.

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And in this episode, you'll learn what a porn wedding dress can really say about a character.

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Now, costume design there's a lot of the heavy lifting.

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You'll also learn about the creepy but clever horror tropes, including the ones that are hiding in plain sight in this movie, like Eat the Rich and the Deadly Game, and you'll also learn about how Ready or Not mixes blood, laughs and the brutal truth about wealth and privilege and the surprising ways that satire sharpens this horror movie and why you might never look at rich families the same ever again.

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Welcome to the Fandom Portals podcast, the podcast that explores how fandoms can help us learn and grow.

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I'm your host, aaron, and I'm here, as always, with Mr Brash Rackham.

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Hello, all right.

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This week, guys, we are looking at the horror comedy satire film Ready or Not, made in 2019.

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This movie is about a bride's wedding night that takes a sinister turn when her eccentric new in-laws force her to take part in a terrifying game.

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But before we get into that, before we get into our deep dive, we're doing our gratitudes for the week and, brash, I'm going to go first.

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This week I am grateful for my curiosity.

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So I'm doing a personal gratitude, because usually I'm grateful for other things, but sometimes it's good to be grateful for the things that you are practicing a bit of self-love.

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So I am grateful for my curiosity, because my curiosity is sometimes a bad thing, but it is often a good thing too, because it sends me down deep, diving rabbit holes that allow me to do amazing things, like this podcast, and it also helps me to learn new things that grow.

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And my curiosity is almost like this drive to complete something, and I don't know if I would want to be without it, if I could fix it.

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You know, if you can get a switch, turn something off your personality and you're just like would you do that?

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I wouldn't, because I like it.

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So I am grateful for my curiosity this week.

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Brash, what are you grateful for?

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I am ungrateful.

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Oh, here we go, ungrateful for a I.

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It's going false, but um, I missed out on voting because I forgot and I was watching wrestling.

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So because I missed voting, I got a fine in the mail for $161.

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So in Australia, it is mandatory for every person over the age of 18 to vote in all federal elections, and Brash was a naughty boy and decided to stay home and watch WrestleMania instead of go to his local voting booth and have his say.

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So the government charged him $160 for the convenience of not hearing his opinion.

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But I don't like any of the people.

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I just go to work, get paid so I can play video games and watch movies.

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It's a simple life.

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Yeah, I think you had an enjoyable day watching WrestleMania.

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Yeah, All the same.

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Yeah, I just have to fork out some money.

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It's fine, would you pay?

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Somebody says you can't watch WrestleMania unless you pay $160.

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Would you pay that money?

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Yes, problem solved.

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You're fine, all good.

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Well, I'm trying to save off as much as I can at the moment because I want to try and get to Perth for the crown jewel.

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This will be the last time anyone likes to see John Cena in a ring, ever since it's his last year Take care and he's coming to Australia.

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All right, ready or Not?

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Is the film that we looked at.

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Stick around, guys, it's going to be a good episode.

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This movie, directed by Matt Batinelli, oplin and Tyler Gillette, also known as Radio Silence they're famous for the Scream movies and also Abigail, written by Guy Busick for Final Destination Bloodlines, a movie you recently saw.

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Brash yes, he is a horror veteran.

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The movie stars Samara Weaving and Screen Rant actually rates this movie Ready or Not as her best horror performance.

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Yeah, I've got to say she has been in a lot of horror movies, but I find there's horror movies and then there's like sort of B-grade horror movies that a lot of actors, like even famous actors, are in but they just don't cross that sort of threshold of being extremely popular Yep.

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Either way, there's a second one coming out of being extremely popular Yep.

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Even though there's a second one coming out, I feel like probably at the time of its release, even though it might have done all right, probably didn't hit the same numbers as like your Screams or your Chainsaw Massacres, or your 13th Night at Miranolam Streets and stuff like that, or your Friday the 13th.

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It was an unsung hero.

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It only made $57 million at the worldwide box office over its release, but it was made on a budget of $6 million, so it's considered a financial success.

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But yeah, you're right, it didn't get as much as the Scream franchise, which is now birthed over seven or eight movies, I think.

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But it is indeed getting a sequel and, funnily enough, they've actually secured, according to some announcements, some pretty big names in the sequel.

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So Samara Weaving is set to return and Sarah Michelle Gellar is also involved.

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Obviously, famous for Buffy, the Vampire Slayer, elijah Wood, my favorite Hobbit, is going to be in it as well.

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He's no stranger to horror as well.

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You're a favorite Hobbit's proto.

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Well he's in my top four.

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He's my favorite, hobbit's Frodo.

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Well, he's in my top four.

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He's my favourite Hobbit.

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Oh, so who's the fifth one who got left out, epin?

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Oh yeah, he's been a bitch.

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Yeah, I'm like Gandalf.

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What a joke.

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Come on, what about second breakfast?

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I want to get that tattooed on my arm.

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Anyway, my digress.

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Another person in the movie coming out in Ready or Not, here I Come is what the sequel's called is Kevin Durant, who played Proxima Caesar.

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He does a good creepy.

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Oh yeah, he's just cool in general.

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He's just a cool dude.

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Yeah, same directors, same writers, and filming began this April, in 2025, so it should be released early next year, but there is no date confirmed for the sequel.

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But yes, samara Weaving, australian actress, very famous for us growing up as millennials as she played Indy Walker on Home and Away.

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Home and Away yeah, she actually appeared in over 300 episodes of Home and Away, which is an Australian soap opera you've heard us talking about a lot.

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And she's also in Ash vs Evil Dead, which I think we should put on the list Brash, because that's another comedy horror mashup that I've never seen.

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And this movie also stars our favorite TV nerd, the man himself, adam Brody.

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I love Adam Brody From the OC, seth Cohen and also plays Noah in the hit TV show Nobody Wants this.

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He's a famous nerd, a famous Jew and, in this movie, a famous alcoholic.

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He's probably my favorite character in this movie.

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honestly, he is mine, he is 100% mine, second only by the younger sister F7.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, she's crazy funny, but yes, this movie was actually also nominated for a Saturnurn award the best horror film in 2021.

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It lost to the invisible man, but it was also up against dr sleep and midsummer, so, or midsummer, uh, it was kind of swept under the rug, wasn't it?

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We talked about it a little bit earlier, but yeah, yeah, it didn't really get the the praise or the approval that it for something.

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It's actually pretty good and it has become quite a popular trope now with all of Jordan Peele's moves like Us and Get Out.

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I actually haven't watched the other two, but I've watched Nope and I loved Nope.

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I thought it was absolutely hilarious.

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It was so good but like spooky, hilarious but hilarious yeah.

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I really liked it.

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We will now get into our next segment.

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In this hot take segment, we discuss our first thoughts of the media and unpack the boldest opinions, from what surprised us to what split the room.

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We'll also highlight your hot takes from our threads, instagram and Reddit communities.

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So if you want to get involved with that, make sure you check out the show notes.

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It's all in there and we'll read out your little comment on our podcast and have a little chat about it.

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So if you want to be part of our community, make sure you go and do that, like these amazing people will from our Reddit.

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The first one on our Reddit is ThiefBam357, who says that the characters in this movie made boneheaded decisions.

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Why didn't she grab one of the two pistols?

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Why didn't she just keep running instead of going to the stable?

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Why did she think that kid wasn't going to shoot her?

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Why would anybody in their right mind think to plead with anybody in that house?

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And you know what I think in horror movies not that I'm a season's horror movie person, but there's always an element of you should have done that, oh, 100%.

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I'm sorry, it's 2020.

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Exactly, and I don't think you can really predict what you would do in a situation like that, because you're never in one.

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It's an unlikely situation and fear takes over and our logical brain, watching this from our popcorn-soaked couch, can't really dictate the decisions of the characters in the movie.

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Like it's fun to talk about as well.

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It's fun to say what an idiot you should have done this.

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Like never go upstairs while you're being chased by a horror movie villain.

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That's my rule 101.

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Never go upstairs because you're trapped.

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But the thing is like with the whole thing of why would you plead with anyone in that family.

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I mean, the only person realistically she really sort of tries to plead to the most is Daniel, and I can feel that because he's like he's cynical through the whole movie.

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But yeah, and I can't watch where she's coming from, but I also get where she's coming from, because the thing is, when you're trapped and you've got nowhere to go, you've got left.

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That's it.

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Yeah, by the flat, exactly, and Legal Swimming 831 has said that they liked Samara Weaving in this and she was also just as good in the Babysitter.

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I haven't seen the Babysitter the.

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Babysitter is also really good and something to be pointing to watch.

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Yeah, All right, let's jump into our threads.

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All right, we have something from our threads community.

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Peruna2001, a avid and frequent commenter on our post, says that they loved it.

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I went into the theater not totally knowing what to expect.

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The scene where the maid gets killed but it takes several tries reminded me of Dr Evil in Austin Powers killing Will Ferrell's character.

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It made me laugh, I love this type of movie, just having fun, I like it.

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And then the crazy aunt goes in with the axe and just yeah, finishes the job and everybody's disgusted.

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I liked the fact that they were kind of disgusted by what they were doing, because it showed, a, that they didn't do it very often and, two, it showed that even though they were fully morally committed to doing this, they were actually very inept, which kind of mirrors that sort of political slash class association where some people that are in a wealthy position aren't qualified to be in a wealthy position even though they get lots of money for what they're doing, if you know what I mean by that, like generational wealth especially, which is what this movie is a commentary of, but we'll get into that a lot more a little bit later as well.

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Eluin from our threads also says you learn almost nothing about her history or her desires, which makes it really hard to care about her more than the fact that she's being chased by murderers.

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I think she's referring to Samara Weaving's character of Grace.

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I mean, the characters are a little bit thin in this movie, but I think we learn a little bit about her just from passing dialogue, the fact that she is a bit of a like she's an orphaned character.

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She comes from foster homes, and I think that is also what they use to explain the fact that she is pretty savvy and has survival skills.

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Like she can front up to people that are similar size to her or those that are attacking her.

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She's got a bit of, as we say in.

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Israel.

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A bit of mongrel in her.

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A bit of mongrel, yeah, she's able to fight through some pretty disastrous situations.

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And one thing that I like about Samara Weaving actually is her performances when she's not really saying much dialogue but she's evoking fear or she is screaming, because a lot of the scream queens that you can think of in movies like horror movies, they kind of go over the top or they go high pitch and it's.

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But.

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But when Samara Weaving did it in this movie, ready or Not, she was like guttural or animalistic and it really played to the fact that she was actually in a fearful situation and she was fighting for her life, especially when she had the bullet wound through her hand and had to climb out of the goat pit, which is obviously a very famous scene in this movie, probably at the start of the second.

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That's where shit got real for me and I was watching and I was like, okay, this is a horror movie, that's not a funny horror movie part.

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This is a horror movie, that's not a funny horror movie part.

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This is a horror horror movie part.

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But yeah, I don't know if I would detract from the movie because there isn't much character development in terms of her character, of Grace's character, because I think we're given enough.

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We're given enough to say that she's completely different from these people.

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Yeah, and she's invested in, uh, you know, trying to fit in or trying to be a part of this family and go along with the absurd traditions, because she's never been a part of a family before, she's a, she's a child from foster care.

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So I think that alone is enough character development for a movie like this, anyway.

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so I wouldn't want this movie to have like flashbacks like that, that would ruin it.

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But but just in her survival or just things that she does related back to something she did in the past.

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That's why she knows how to use that, because she doesn't know that well, the balls are just for show.

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But she tucks the bullet in it, cocks it, aims it, fires it.

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Nothing happens.

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So she knows how to shoot a gun.

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Yeah, load a, it cocks, it, aims, it, fires it nothing happens.

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So she knows how to shoot a gun.

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Yeah, load a gun, shoot a gun, yeah.

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Yeah, like when she's doing she can be like all shapely, like I've been to like the gun range or I've done something, I know how to use this thing.

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That sort of like relate back to her past a little bit could have helped people relate to her a bit more.

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But yeah, I agree with you, like realistically it doesn't need it.

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I don't believe, Not for this kind of movie, because this is purely.

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A girl gets invited to crazy rich person house.

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She then has to fight for her life to survive.

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Yeah, and I think that when they made this and it's kind of a breath of fresh air really they made it with the intention of it being a standalone movie, which doesn't happen very often.

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So they gave you all the information that you needed and nothing more.

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Now it's becoming a franchise, with a sequel coming out.

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Maybe we will learn a little bit more about Samara Weeping's character of Grace.

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I am a little bit apprehensive about it, because now, if they try and do a whole backstory thing with her, are they going to ruin the movie by having a huge expose that is going to detract from the actual what the movie is, which is her surviving.

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Yeah, I don't know how much of a presence she should have or will have in the sequel, because we don't know what happened to her at the end of this movie.

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Obviously, she survives and she's sitting on the steps of this movie with a bloodied and burnt out wedding dress and she's the sole survivor of the LaDoma's fortune, incredibly wealthy now.

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Or is she in jail?

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We don't know yeah and well.

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It also could be a similar thing to like Fun Destination where, because they were stuck in the actual thing, they say oh, I remember what happened to the McMurray's, whatever they're called how they they like.

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Oh, did they die in a house fire that was some foreshadowing, Foreshadowing that, like they're not the only people who have dealings with the devil.

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Isn't that funny how that one little throwaway line is what is probably now going to birth the sequel, Because that up too I I picked up the fact that they there were other families in their position that obviously made deals with um labelle, labelle yeah, who?

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and they obviously got their fortune.

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The lord domus has got their fortune from him and there was that slight nod at the end to say, yes, you got away from me.

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Uh, you were able to survive.

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But then you know there's that whole tradition that goes through with selecting the game for the new entrance to the family as well.

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How much is it is going to be similar in other families that go through these kinds of ritualistic offerings for the next time, you know.

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And she might go ahead and her character might be going around and maybe using that wealth to try and find other people who are going to be in her situation and try and help them.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Well, that's true, she might be the expert on this sort of situation now, yeah, and helping the next survivor.

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But yeah, I think that I'll definitely be going to see Rodeon and here I come and we'll get into our next segment, which is called Get to Know your Crossbow.

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Brash, which means we need 20 more before we can give something away.

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Do you want me to go first?

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yes, you can go first okay, this movie, ready or not, was shot chronologically, which is kind of rare, because usually in a location movie they shoot the scenes that they need to and they put them together in post in chronological order.

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However, this movie was shot in chronological order, which means the very first scene that you see is the first scene that was shot, and then so forth and so forth to the very very end.

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Now, they did this for a particular reason.

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Do you know what that reason was?

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And I'll give you a clue it's because Samara Weaving had to do something 26 times and it was required that she do it chronologically.

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Because my first thought was because as she's going she gets more shit on her as she goes, so like blood and dirt and bile and shit from falling into the goat pit.

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So if they were to do it out of order they'd be constantly having to try and match the amount of shit that's on her as she went through the night.

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Yeah, so pretty much the the wedding dress and the way that she had to put on that wedding dress for 26 to 30 days of shooting.

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That's what she had to do over and over and over again, and she actually committed to putting on the dress after a day of shooting and after the fact that it was dirty and you know she'd obviously go home after, after her work, and then she'd come back and it'd be torn, it'd be burned, it'd be bloodied and it'd be weathered, and it would.

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It was to match the film's escalating violence, and samara weaving's commitment meant that wearing versions of the same dirty and sweaty dress every day under intense heat and high action sequences became something that she kind of had to get used to, and the garment actually became allegorical for the growth that she goes through in terms of mirroring her rejection to the Lodomus' family's patriarchal and ritualistic legacies.

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Because at the start of the movie it's white, it's perfect, it's pristine.

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The lighting in the actual movie is really colorful and you're hopeful for the fact that she's starting and entering this new family.

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And then the moment the dress rips is when she's getting out of the dumb waiter and that's when she starts to click that this family isn't actually what it seems.

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So that's the like the ceremonial dress that's supposed to represent purity and submission to the patriarchal regime of the LaDomas family.

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There's a tear in it, so there's a little fracture of thought where she's like, oh, maybe this isn't really what it seems.

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And then, finally, the part where she rips the dress the most, or the first part when she rips the dress the most, was after Alex tells her everything about the traditions of the LaDomas family.

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So he says you know, this is the only card that you could have drawn that could have made this happen.

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My family is in league with a dark entity.

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We have to try and kill you.

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If you survive till sunrise, we all die.

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And then she tears the dress around the knees so she can continue to run away and worse and worse and worse, chronologically throughout the performance until, naturally, at the very end, she is sitting in no longer a white wedding dress but a black, charred and bloodied wedding dress, which is the complete opposite of how she started.

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So this dress is almost like a character in the movie that shows you how the character of Grace is progressing with her feelings towards the Lodomus family, as the movie goes on as well, and they needed to shoot chronologically in order to get that effect.

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I'll give you the point for that.

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Yeah, which is a pretty spectacular thing if you think about it, oh yeah, for her to be able to put that dress on after a day, yeah.

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My first one, similar to aspects of clothing, there was something that she had to wear that they had to modify because it's no longer created.

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You know what it is yes, I read this.

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They had to recreate her shoes because converse didn't make them the yellow color anymore no, yeah, so they want yellow shoes, but yeah, they um don't make that color anymore, so they had to get them custom spray painted yeah, as soon as I saw those yellow shoes, I was like I wonder if they have them, because my partner Kalia, she, loves Converse.

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Yeah, I was like she would love a pair of those because when, yeah, when we first met, she used to wear high tops in the Converse and exactly like the ones that Samara Weavings were wearing in the movie.

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And she, yeah, definitely something she would wear.

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I like those shoes.

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They're great.

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Am I go?

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Yeah, I'll go.

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Okay, ready or not.

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And the game hide and seek was based in inspired by folklore and urban legends, but, most specifically, the deadly game trope was also very heavily used and it originated from this piece of literature.

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Do you know what it was?

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I don't believe it is a famous piece of literature.

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Do you know what it was?

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Ooh, I don't believe.

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Is it a famous piece of literature, would you say?

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It's famous for the horror movie genre and trope, but I wouldn't say that it is completely famous.

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It's not from the book that Clara reads to the kids Paradise.

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Lost.

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No, not Paradise Lost.

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So this is the book called the Most Dangerous Game made in 1932.

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Oh fuck, it's the original trope where a hunter traps people on his island and he hunts them for sport.

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I should know this.

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Yeah, it's one countless adaptation Because of the movie that I've picked for us.

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Yeah, know this.

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Yeah, it's one countless adaptation Because of the movie that I've picked for us.

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Yeah, so this movie has a massive theme of the rich, or the privileged, hunting down the poor.

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And, yeah, the Most Dangerous Game was the original book that was created.

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That has that in it.

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Okay, so mine.

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This might be also a bit of a difficult one, but I think it's pretty fun.

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So there were five board games in the family cupboard where it seems, almost purposefully, that there's a gap between the people standing there to show a clear view of all the board games in the cupboard.

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I won't say name them all, but can you name three of them?

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I?

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remember one that had like the devil's face on it, that was called LaBelle's Gambit, and then there was one called Family Ritual, but I don't remember the rest.

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Think Court of Outs the Batman.

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Ah, what are the Court of Outs?

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Secret Society, close Secret.

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Local Government.

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What are they called about?

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Secret society, close, secret local government secret council hey, so, yeah, that's that's for him.

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So, family ritual, thinking, family ritual, it's like all these, all these board games are pretty much there for specific reasons.

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The family ritual, obviously because it's a it's their family sort of thing and that's a ritual that they do for the weddings to play the games and they all want to be ritualistically killed.

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Grace and then Secret Council, because they were well back in the as they said in the movie back in the day, they used to like it was their father's idea to like wear masks and gowns and everything like that as like a secret sort of council.

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Little Bales Gambit obviously is like because that's their board game, that's their game, that's their gambit, because they made that gambit with the.

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Yeah, that's right, the bargain.

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Yeah, bargain.

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And then Sunrise.

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If you miss the sunrise, they all die.

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Ah, so those board games are all placed on purpose.

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Ah, so those board games are all a physical act of foreshadowing.

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There's a lot of foreshadowing in this movie as well, and I actually read something that said that some people think that all of that foreshadowing, and especially some of the things that the characters say throughout, actually allude to the fact that the game of hide and seek was actually rigged for Grace.

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So it was rigged that she would pick the card of hide and seek Because at the very start of the movie, if you remember, the kids are running around and running around and they're wearing the mask and they're saying like kill, kill, kill.

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And then Daniel says to put the mask away.

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But if this is something that has only happened once in their lifetime and never before the kids were around, there's obviously been some chat about it through the family.

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This be something that's happening.

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And you know, I feel like the ladormuses.

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They pick and choose who is going to become a part of their family because they are aligned to their ideals.

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Like, if you look at the other two characters, um with charity, played by elisa levesque, and also bitch, played by christian brun.

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Both of those characters, they're assholes.

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Basically, they're happy to be indoctrinated into this rich lifestyle with Christian Braun's character of Bitch.

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He's like the clueless social climber.

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And then Charity, who is Daniel's wife.

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Cutthroat go-getter.

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Yeah, aspirational, she's cruel, she's self-preserving, she's got this elitism about her and she even said you know, I'd rather be dead than poor or something like that, or I'll never go back there again.

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And she's more in it than her husband is, who is actually a part of the family and he a part of the family and he's indoctrinated into it and he hates it.

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Yeah, and I just thought it was so ironic that her name is Charity and she's literally she's anything, but yeah she's literally anything but, and I thought that was really clever.

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But, you know, going back to how they thought it might have been rigged, there's there's also, you know, when they first get married, on the bed and then the auntie's hiding in the background and she says you'll have to hide.

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Better than that, yeah, it's almost like the whole family, except for Alex, is in on it, and actually in saying that if they were because usually you can't read it, it's just random what card you get, it's picked If they somehow figured out a way to read it because they're like, oh, we don't want some person who's just a, who took our son away and Exactly yeah, and we don't want that kind of person in our family they might try to read it.

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And then it could have actually been the work of LaBelle LaBelle or the devil himself, who, mr LaBelle, who did in fact go?

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You know what?

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If they want to cheat, because they cheat like they basically cheated.

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If they did that, they cheated and their consequence is that they would all be beaten by this person.

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Be beaten by this person and they'll either just die at once or like, unfortunately, to the mother and don't make it to the end.

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But and some of the other poor people in the house but pretty much everyone else in that house dies because they decided they wanted to cheat and not let the spiritist person in their house instead of playing the game fairly.

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Yeah, and you could even look at the inverse of that.

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Whereas if the devil wanted to continue this tradition, have this tradition keep going, he needs to include people in the Ledomus family who are going to want to continue that tradition.

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And looking at Grace, she's like the outsider, she's a working class individual.

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She's thrust into this elite system of power.

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Her name literally symbolizes like moral dignity and resilience and she survives through this trauma.

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But looking at her as a person and in a personality, this person that Alex has picked for, one, it's going to draw Alex away from the Lodomas family, which removes a member from this cult, and then two, he's going to have an inserted member into that family who's going to disagree with the status quo.

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Like this game was kind of rigged to single her out and have her removed from the family from the very start.

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Whether it was from the actual devil, mr LaBelle, or whether it was from the actual LaDomas family, but either way, she never stood a chance to be accepted in that family.

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I think that it was the family's choice to rig the game, and then not so much that LaBelle helped her, but maybe it was like a little more rooting for her, and then that's why then at the end, when it then everyone gets killed, or when she's like a nod gives her a nod and says congratulations yeah, well done.

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Yeah, yeah I.

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There's also an argument to say that perhaps the family did orchestrate it, because remember there was the dialogue throughout the whole movie where they were saying that Alex was deviating further and further away from the family.

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So they didn't want him having this happy marriage with Grace because it would ostracize him further from them.

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So, just like what happened with the auntie, with Aunt Helene, if his spouse died as a result of this tradition, then perhaps he would have no other reason to seek an outward look from what the family were doing and he would turn back into the family, because they all perceived him as being the new head of the Lodomus empire, or dominion, as they like to call it.

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There was the darkness in him, whereas Daniel the Lodomus Empire or Dominion as they like to call it.

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Yeah, but there's a lot of, because there was the darkness in him, whereas Daniel, the older brother, who really should be the one to air, didn't have that.

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And you see that sort of when they're kids as well, how Daniel's trying to protect the younger brother, but the younger brother was sort of into it.

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Yeah, I actually found that really fascinating when you're looking at Alex and Daniel and Daniel was really protective and sort of almost like he was a bit more resilient to the draw of the or the seduction of what the Lododomas family is doing and Alex was in the dark about it but he was also kind of into it.

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But then you look at who Daniel married he married Charity.

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He's really into it, just like Alex, and Alex married Grace, who wouldn't be into it, just like Daniel.

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So their closest familial relationship.

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They found familiarity in their partners and their personality types kind of match in that way too.

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I found that really interesting to look at those two characters and see the psychology behind that yeah, that's the very interesting take.

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Yeah, but we digress yeah, let's get on to my question.

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Um, all right, the ending of this movie was actually supposed to be very, very different.

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Obviously, this ending had the ladomas family explode in a combustion of blood as dawn rose, after a slight moment where they thought to themselves maybe this curse wasn't real because nothing happened when the sun rose.

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But then, in an instant, they all decided to erupt in a red fury and flash.

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However, the original ending in the original script was different.

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Do you know what was supposed to happen in the original ending?

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obviously no.

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I'm going to take a stab.

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This was a bit of a one-off, so I don't think they'd have them actually kill Samara Weaving because her character Grace, because then there's a chance that it can continue if they did that, whereas how they left it is pretty much end of story.

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I'm going to say does she just kill them all?

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No, no.

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Does Daniel somehow survive and help her kill them all?

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No, no, I don't know, I have no clue.

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Your first idea was correct.

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Originally, grace was supposed to be killed by the LaDomas family and, yeah, the originally grace was supposed to be killed by the lodomas family and the yeah, the reason they were, she was supposed to be ritually, ritualistically sacrificed.

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And the reason they wanted to do that was because it would further epitomize the point that they were trying to make through the movie that the elite class and their privilege is extremely dangerous.

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But it was also extremely oppressive to the working class to the point where she fought and fought and fought and fought and still got lost really nowhere.

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Still lost, just like people do when they're fighting against the rich elitist, and then their generational wealth continues on, even though there are so many people sort of fighting against them, and their traditions continue as well.

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So the original directors thought that that was kind of the message that they wanted to portray.

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But then they also thought to themselves you know, people are going to come to this movie and audiences really don't want to see, uh, this movie end with the rich people being victorious.

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So they they thought, you know, uh, they actually I've got, I've got a quote here.

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So it says uh, when they wrote it, uh, oplon, olpen sorry, but nelly, oplon and gillette said it was something that they knew that they needed to change and they thought to themselves let's try and have our cake and eat it too.

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He said it's not real, as in the curse isn't real and these clowns completely fucked up and you know.

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Then we want to kill them all.

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And the team came up with this fake out ending and the challenge was actually trying to prove the curse was real without extending the film to unnecessarily long length.

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So they went through 20 different drafts where and most of them were way too long they said, and many of the versions were picked, pitched, include, like similar final destinations style sequences where the family members would die of eerie or accidental circumstances.

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Um, but they just said yeah, yeah, they said that in the end, the outlandishly spontaneous combustion would work the best because it was fast and it was absurd and it was kind of like a moment like, oh my God, this is batshit crazy and it was probably the best idea that I've ever had and it was either going to work or it wasn't.

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And the fact that Samara Weaving laughed during that scene After the whole thing yeah, that was improvised by Samara Weaving, because there's so many takes where she was completely shocked and scared by it and Samara was like can I just try one where I laugh?

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And I was like yes, do that.

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Yeah, and that's the one that stuck in when like, yeah, she fought all this hard, they're all still alive.

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She fought for all this time.

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Yeah, and the directors actually said, you know, the reason they settled on this ending was because sometimes watching a pack of rotten no good 1%ers get what's coming to them is enough on its own.

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And you know, I feel like that's a take that a lot of the audience members agreed with, because it is quite well received critically and the ending is quite well received as well.

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But I wanted to see the rich people win.

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I don't know what that says about me, but I thought the whole time that Samara Williams was going to be ritualistically sacrificed and the point that they were going to like the narrative point that they were going to drive through, was that privilege and entitlement are really, really dangerous things, and that was the message that was going to come in the end of the movie.

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But I think the comed element and the fact that they wanted the people going to see this movie, which is going to be the working class, looking and seeing the rich elitists winning, wouldn't be something that they would sit well in their mouths with, especially during the time this was made, because I think that that was when a rich elitist was ascending the presidency ranks to become part of the governing body.

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So I think that they made the best call for the audience, but for me, I think I would have liked it better if it had a darker ending.

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But that's just really me.

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I would have loved if they had an ending when the cops are all running around the house and the one comes up to the mirror and is like are you okay, brother?

00:35:20.364 --> 00:35:24.978
You hear in the background and I love the lease as one still alive.

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Oh, that would have been cool and it was by.

00:35:26.961 --> 00:35:29.074
And it was by boy, adam Brody that would have been sick.

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I would love for him to come back in the sequel, but yeah, I think.

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Oh man, the reason I like Adam Brody is because he's like he's sarcastic.

00:35:37.414 --> 00:35:40.882
So well, he does, he so does he's so he's cynical.

00:35:40.902 --> 00:35:42.353
So well, even him in OC.

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He's single in OC.

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He's sarcasm in that.

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It was great.

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I would love that because he tried to.

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Maybe it was the fact that he already died, like sort of he maybe died at one point, the curse didn't get him, sort of like how it is in Final Destination 3 or what it is, when she dies and the person brings her back to life and she escapes the death curse, sort of thing.

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Or just because maybe there was, like you know what, adam bray's a good guy yeah, I think they used his character because he kind of represent they all.

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Every single character in this movie represents an element of the elitist class or the the richest sort of class, and they, they satirize them and make a whole character about one element that uh represents that that sort of class system.

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Like daniel was the morally conflicted enabler, like he was aware that his family was evil but there was nothing he could do about it.

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So he just got drunk all the time and he resisted until the end and he ends up submitting to that ridiculousness of his family's elite status because he turns grace into the Lodomas family and gets her ritualistically sacrificed.

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But he also has a change of heart.

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So he's got this complex relationship that's marred with tragedy and conscience.

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And that's what he's sort of representing is that morally conflicted part where there's the people in the family of these traditionalists that really know what they're doing is wrong but they can't break free of it because their lifestyle that they have is, you know, it's very enticing.

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So that's that's what his character sort of represented in that and I like that about him.

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And for me I do like adam brody, but I still feel like he was irredeemable oh yeah, no, I'm just like it's only a fan.

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Well, you don't even be like a fanfic, sort of like.

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A yeah thing for me is that I'm ready to be alive again.

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That would have been.

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That would have been a good little chill for the for the horror genre, though.

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If a cop in the end was just like there's someone still alive and even leaving it as like we don't know which one it is, that would have been cool and then yeah, and then he hears that, and so the cigarette drops out of her mouth or something.

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Yeah, yeah, one thing I liked about the cigarette stuff as well was at the start of the movie.

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You know how she's smoking in her room before she's married.

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And then you know she's confronted by the mother, becky Ledomus, and she says, do you smoke?

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And she's like, oh, no, no, no and um to fit in.

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And then as soon as they're all gone again she lights up that cigarette and she's like, okay, beat myself again.

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It's like the oppression of like a, like trying to fit in with an in-law family.

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Anyway, your last question.

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I digress, I do.

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Okay, the exterior shots of the mansion that was filmed in is a park with Estates in Oshawa, ontario, canada.

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It was the same estate grant as another famous movie.

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Mansion.

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I know this one, yes.

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Well, I know that it was used for the X-Men movie, I know that it was used for Chicago and I know that it was also used for the Beauty and the Beast live action movie.

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That's none of the ones.

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What one do you have?

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The same one used for Billy Madison.

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Ah, I'd like to thank you, veronica for beating the shit out of me Great movie.

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Well, I wasn't wrong, but I just didn't know.

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You weren't wrong.

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Yeah, no, I've got that one.

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They actually had a lot of trouble shooting on there because it was heritage listed.

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So the cinematographer, brett Dukowitz, had to adapt lighting schemes on the fly to preserve the eerie ambience but also to present that sort of natural light at the very start when the wedding was happening.

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But I thought that that gothic mansion was so good and that was so intricate maze bonus question, though only one part, only one part of this whole entire movie.

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